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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 10, 2010 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

DAMN! That is really nice work. Folks should check out your gallery:

http://www.cpstudioceramics.com/gallery.html

My mother-in-law runs a shop in Prague that sells ceramic work; I don't think many people appreciate how labor intensive it is and how difficult it can be to produce such high quality work. KUDOS!

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Dec 10, 2010 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Thanks. What folks truly fail to comprehend is how long it takes to learn to make decent pottery. The learning curve measures in years and years. I've been working in clay for 30 years, been a full time potter for 15, and my best work is what I made last week. My favorite work is what is in process right now. Every day I strive to get a bit better at what I do, and so far, every day I have. My Dad used to say, "If you learn to make something with your hands. You can always make a living". Selling it on the other hand... sometimes easy, other times impossible...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2010 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Very nice!

I'd like to order a Sake set...

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Dec 10, 2010 3:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Sure wish I could make them... I drink hot sake, but never got a bottle right. I used to make "giant" 8oz. sake cups. Never liked those thimbles they give you... Then found out I don't like the hangover from sake either...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2010 5:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

The reason for the small size of Sake tumblers (called ochoko or guinomi) is to facilitate frequent refill opportunities, each of which is a mini-ritual of social bonding in Japan. Japanese formal drinking etiquette calls for the pouring of others. Pouring for yourself is impolite and known as tejaku.

Your ceramics are beautiful. If you ever figure out how to make a Sake serving vessel (tokkuri), please put me down for a set.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Dec 11, 2010 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

ahhh....Sake! Me and a friend I was stationed with in Okinawa went to a small party at his okinawan friends home. Was wondering why they kept pouring the Sake...boy, did I get yopparai!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 11, 2010 2:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Sake can get you pretty good but have you ever tried Shōchū?

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Dec 11, 2010 6:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

What the hell, may give it a shot again. I was thinking about it this morning as I was splitting wood for the stove in the studio and clearing snow off the drive for potential customers.

Your comments illustrate part of the learning curve dimension of a potter's life. You seem to have a much deeper knowledge about the ins and outs of sake drinking than I do. In order to accommodate your "expertise", I will have to immerse myself in the ways of sake, as to not create something that may be considered a path toward insult. I get it from the tea drinkers... I am not Japanese, so a lot of my work is "Americanized". I make tea pots for people who use tea bags. In other words, I make tea pots that I will use. No, it doesn't please the ones in the know, but the ones who have them love 'em. Nice little pot, put in two tea bags, steep the tea, pour it accurately, without dripping all over the table, and the lid doesn't fall out and hit you in the foot. Simple, refined, flawlessly functional, and you don't have to be a tea master to use them.

To further illustrate the point. Years ago a seemingly nice lady from Philly bought an oval baking dish from me. We call them 2 qt. maccaroni and cheese dishes. She loved it and used it for a while, then invited a friend over for dinner, who considered herself an expert in art and cuisine. "Oh darling, a proper casserole dish should really have a cover". She was horribly insulted... Then I get a nasty phone call that I've made an inferior dish and she's sending it back COD. It arrived broken, with food still stuck inside... Now, I learned to make these pieces from a well known potter from Minnesota. He was trained in Japan and England. Wanting to please future customers, I called him up, told him my dilemma, and asked him if he ever made covers for his oval dishes. He laughed really hard and said, "Yeah..., I make them out of tin foil..." So now I make sure to flair the rims out a bit so foil or plastic wrap has something to grab.

Americanized...

Anyway Cliff, thanks for the brief sake etiquette lesson. I'll give it a try over the winter, and to bring this back to the Dead. I'll make it while listening to something from Europe "72.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 11, 2010 11:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Outstanding thread, CP; never would've guessed. I've always loved folks that can do wonders with their hands, in any number of domains.

Your comments on the "in the knows" vs the rest of us is of course so true on so many levels. For some of them, of course, I have to be counted as one of the "in the know" snobs, and can trot out reasons for why it has to be "this" way, etc., etc. Of course, a little tolerance goes a long way (though as you all well know, I lack this for a handful of issues; but hey--I can ask for tolerance for my intolerance on occasion, right?).

I do happen to see the pt of the "must have a lid" when cooking, storing, and so on and so forth with such dishes, but could certainly live with one that lacked it...tin foil is amazing stuff afterall. One of those rare items/substances that just fascinates and functions at the same time (at least for me).

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Dec 11, 2010 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Keep that tin foil hat on, Tell... you never know who's out there!

(~); )

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 11, 2010 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

what's so funny, uj, is that I wrote in a sentence or two on just THAT (the hat), as a joke, but it got deleted before I posted!? Bizarre...

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 11, 2010 2:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

You can't get that nice burnt cheese crust on mac and cheese if you put a lid on it. So, if I were to purchase a mac and cheese pot.....I'd expect no lid. Now clay pot cooking does require a lid......but c'mon.

I've got a roaast slow cookin' in the dutch oven...as we speak(or write).

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Dec 11, 2010 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Tin foil and duct tape. I actually turn the feet on my mugs to fit inside a roll of duct tape. Because... it is the cup holder in my 21 year old van. That and a few napkins in the glove box, doubles as a first aid kit.

The way I make oval bakers, a lid presents many problems, first and foremost, it will only fit one specific way. Not a good thing when it's fresh from a hot oven and you're trying to put it on backwards while holding on for dear life with a pot holder.

Being made of stoneware, they stay hot a long time. We've gone to pot luck dinners, taken the dish from the oven, put foil over the rim, driven a half-hour, set it on the table, removed the foil, and the food is still steaming.

So I make round casseroles for the must have a lid crowd. Any way you put it back, it fits. Lately, I have been making the lids dome shaped, because a few folks have been asking for tagines (Morroccan cooking pots). Once again I've Americanized the peices. It will work like a tagine, but I don't have to make them specifically. I'm not North African. For the ones in the know who own them, they are really happy. Not only can they cook their couscous, but baked beans as well, and the folks who just want a good bean pot, may stumble on an exotic recipe, dig through their cabinets, and think, hey this peice will work.

And for all the "in the knows" out there. I will learn something from you, whether you like it or not, add it to my bag of tricks, and make it work to suit a variety of purposes. That goes for pottery, drinking, cooking, and Grateful Dead music.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 11, 2010 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Duct tape: it won the West, the second time over. That's one of the first things I learned in AZ.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Dec 10, 2010 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.' ~ Picasso

Gorgeous coloration, really fine handiwork. Looks like nice holiday gifts!